Project Purpose Podcast

From Struggles to Success – Transforming Challenges into Achievements!

Sheryll

From the heart of Chicago's South Side to the heights of entrepreneurial success, Willie Muhammad's journey is a testament to resilience and determination. Join me, Sheryll, as I host Willie on the Project Purpose podcast, where we uncover the powerful story of how a challenging upbringing shaped a mindset that conquered adversity. As we talk, Willie unveils the gritty realities he faced and the lessons learned that propelled him to create a million-dollar business. This inspiring narrative sheds light on the unyielding spirit required to transform life's toughest trials into stepping stones for success. 

 🎙 Why You Should Tune In:
• Willie shares his background growing up in the projects 
• Emphasis on resilience and overcoming challenges 
• Influence of higher education and mentorship on his career 
• Transitioning from public service to entrepreneurship 
• Importance of community engagement and social impact 
• Message of hope and motivation for underprivileged youth 

We wrap things up by examining the core principles that guide both life and business decisions. Character, ethics, and legacy are not just buzzwords; they are the pillars that support a meaningful existence. Willie and I discuss how maintaining a strong reputation, engaging in community service, and the power of mindset and action can help navigate the transition from traditional jobs to entrepreneurship. This episode promises valuable insights for anyone looking to overcome adversity and achieve greatness, while staying true to one's values and aspirations. 

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone and welcome to Project Purpose podcast, where we talk all things money, mindset and leveling up your game. I am your host, sherelle, and today my special guest went from the inner city projects of Chicago to making millions in his company. His story is inspiring. Let's get into it. Today I have the pleasure of speaking with an extraordinary guest who has defined the odds from his humble beginnings into an inspiring success story From the inner city projects of Chicago to earning over a million dollars in his company. Please welcome to the show, mr Willie Muhammad.

Speaker 2:

Wow, thank you. Thank you, Mrs Muhammad. It's a pleasure being here.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for having, for being here.

Speaker 2:

You're welcome welcome.

Speaker 1:

You're so welcome pleasure you're actually our first guest, so welcome. Oh well, the first of many, right?

Speaker 2:

so it's an honor being here and, um, you know, I know you're putting a lot of work into this incredible podcast gonna help a lot of people. I'm just glad to be here awesome.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're glad to have you and we're gonna get right into the questions that I have here for you. I know you have an amazing story to share with us and, even though this podcast is predominantly for women, I believe your story is such a universal one that it will impact both male and female. So we're glad to have you and we're going to go ahead and dive right into your story. So share with us just a brief background Again.

Speaker 2:

Willie Muhammad, actually I've been in this industry that I'm in the business that you're talking about, a home-based business for over 24 years. It's a company called Liguccio, a company that I was introduced to while I was working back in Gary, indiana right, and as a former deputy chief probation officer, and introduced to the company and just made a lot of sense and was able to join that company and hit the top position and was able to leave my former job as a deputy chief after 11 months. You know, helped a lot of people while helping myself. So that was kind of my journey into the home-based business and the entrepreneurship side.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. So we first going to talk a little bit about your background and personal journey. And I know, because I'm with you, that at one point you were in the projects of Chicago sure so what were some of your biggest challenges that you faced in that situation and how did it shape your mindset today?

Speaker 2:

well, some of the time. I mean, you know when you say projects right, and I know it was in the early 70s South Side of Chicago. Yeah, there was some difficult times but I'll be honest with you, there were a lot of fun times, a lot of family times, unlike what's being portrayed or some of the truth that have been out there as far as gang violence and things of that nature.

Speaker 2:

But I guess some of the biggest obstacles or some of the tough situations would be when the elevator wasn't working, at times when my mom would come from work, and there were times we would have to carry groceries to the sixth floor Because in a project, as you know, you were stacked on top of each other.

Speaker 2:

Some of the times it would go from first floor all the way up to the 16th or the 30th floor and if the elevators were not working, that simply means that you would have to carry those groceries, you know, up. And so those are some of the challenges. Of course you know sometimes the weather and the heat and being in the projects, incinerators, you see the smoke because, of course, your garbage. You would dump garbage in an incinerator and then you would wait until it would get lit and that's how it would work and but. But those were again some of the challenges that we would have, you know, living in the projects and of course you know they're coming roaches at times and you know, the critters you know running around, but that we pull through, we push through now, how do you believe you that humble beginning sets you up for success?

Speaker 2:

That's a great question. Actually, you talk about building resilience, right Toughness. I believe I kind of carry that, you know, sense of, you know not willing to give up because of where we come from and then sometimes not having a lot of food in the place. My mom and my stepdad did a great job, but of course we were a blended family.

Speaker 2:

So having that mindset of even as a youngster right had a lot of great friends seeing things such as guns, drugs, violence. You better learn how to fight. We called it slap boxing back then. So I had to learn at an early age that in order to really just adjust and be able to live in those environments, you got to learn how to be tough, and so it brought about a resilience and a toughness in me that helped me even do my journey of being an entrepreneur.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome. So we know that you transitioned from there, that that didn't last long. You, of course, went on to college and then got a career. Tell us a little bit about that career.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was interesting. Actually, because of my father, my stepdad and what have you my mom and dad had gotten divorced, so really the journey started in Arkansas, but at a very young age.

Speaker 2:

Of course, we moved to Chicago and we stayed there for a few years and actually we my dad, stepdad and my mom got married and we were moving to Gary, indiana. Those don't know it's really close to Chicago and GI Shout out to GI, right, gary. But I was really kind of dumbfounded and hurt that we were moving from Chicago into a nice home because we just used to be in that environment playing softball. So many kids, so many families that are, because we just used to be in that environment playing softball, so many kids, so many families that are. You know, not knowing that that wasn't a great, you know, as you know now. But still we went to Gary and moved to Gary in the late 70s and went to school and I eventually graduated in high school, back and forth with my dad, and went to college. As a matter of fact, 1984, when I graduated from Central High School, I was a basketball player I love sports, right and I was able to go to Mississippi Valley State University and so that's where I started my college journey.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, and we know that you pledged, of course, kappa Alpha Psi, kappa Alpha Psi.

Speaker 2:

Yes, awesome.

Speaker 1:

And how did that college you know education, predominantly black school how did that help shape you into transitioning into your career and becoming the youngest deputy chief PO in that career?

Speaker 2:

Well, going to an HBCU for me was just, you know, just incredible. I'm just so blessed and thankful that I had a chance to go there, because not only do you get a chance to meet so many incredible individuals you know, from professors to, of course, your classmates or your college mates, but it just gave me that idea of about who I am, the knowledge of self.

Speaker 1:

Sense of purpose.

Speaker 2:

Not only a sense of purpose, but also it's a sense of belonging and, unlike somebody, nothing against all the other. You know major colleges that are out there, but you find that those professors really care for you. If you were not in class they would check you right. In some instances they would go to your dorm and call you out, right, you know, hey, your mom and dad didn't pay or didn't put up, all you know, sending you money for you to be sleeping in. No, so you had that family atmosphere because the classes were a lot smaller. But we learned so much sometimes we wouldn't, even if it would be a certain topic, we would go off of topics, you know, concerning whether it be our history, right black culture and things of that nature. And so I was just so blessed to be a part of Mississippi Valley State and my alma mater. Love them, love it and I love the school and you know, definitely it was great memories.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, and how did that help to transition you into becoming the youngest?

Speaker 2:

I think, part of, like I say, from Gary, indiana, chicago, when I came out looking for work but being in school and then around my father, my biological father, my stepfather, and, of course, having, as I mentioned before those, access to incredible individuals, people like Malcolm X, right, some of my mentors that I looked up to, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the Minister of Air Con, and from on and on and on, it was like that mindset of doing for self. So, even though I had a college degree, I started surrounding myself with individuals, like you know. Yeah, I want to work, but I also want to, you know, work for myself and serve others, and that was just always real. I always wanted to work in the communities, always because, growing up in the project scene, so much wanted to work with youth, right, especially, you know minority, whether it be Hispanic, you know African-American or what have you, because those were the ones that have been, I think at that time, vilified and chastised or what have you, as not being capable, which we know that's not true.

Speaker 2:

And so I found myself going into probation and also to juvenile detention. I wanted to be an attorney. That didn't work out. Family, please don't do this. Don't go and take an LSAT test and party all night with the campus. I did that and did miserably, but I ended up, like I said, going a different route. Um started out in detention, which was really interesting, uh, working with kids, um in the juvenile system um Hoosiers Boys Town, and then worked my way up to supervisor, from supervisor to probation officer, from probation officer to um the first um African-American. The whole deposition as a deputy chief uh probation officer, because it's just yeah a lot of men, I don't know, for some reason a lot of men didn't want to.

Speaker 2:

It was women running it, yeah, the judges, the chief was a woman and most of the supervisors were women, but for some reason the brothers and I'm just not talking about black brothers- white brothers too they didn't. I was just one of the ones that stepped up, wanted to take that challenge.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome. Thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2:

You're welcome.

Speaker 1:

So that's your background, pretty inspiring. So now we're going to transition into money and financial freedom.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

So what advice would you give to people with similar background like yours who are thinking of achieving financial freedom? You know what might feel stuck, so to speak. You obviously went to college, then just decided that your, you know your past wasn't going to define you and you move out into the career field. What advice would you give to young people who are trying to now transition from you know, high school really into whether they need to go to college or just go straight into the workforce?

Speaker 2:

I guess one of the advice I gave I always and still to this day you know, I'm still growing right and giving advice to myself is not to be afraid to take challenges right and to do things differently than the norm, and I've kind of always been that type of person to look and seek out.

Speaker 2:

But I think most of the time that really, things that stop us from being successful or going to higher heights is the fear, right, fear of the unknown and things of that nature. But that would be one and plus surrounding yourself, as I mentioned, with mentors or a good um, inner circle of people, right, um, and if you see people that have success, if you see individuals, that and that was, for me, right whether reading real big books or or watching individuals, whether they're on, you know, television or what have you. That was something that I wanted and and I seek out that information, I study and search, and so I think that helped me as I was going through my period of growth and still growing, to find independence, to find entrepreneurship, but also to continue to serve.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. So now you transition into living a career that was so safe, so sure, so peaceful, so free, and decided to step out into the world of entrepreneurship.

Speaker 2:

Talk to us a little bit about that. Yeah, safe is yeah, that's an understatement because it's mentioned. You know, I know I still have friends and, hey, shout out to those individuals. Not an easy job when you're dealing with parents and friends and trying to do your job or what have you, especially when you have the politics involved with it. But it's not just that job. I was also hired by the Drug Enforcement Agency as a DEA and that was a huge for me. Turn down, and even back then you would question yourself man, right, because you listen to your friends and the individuals that you even helped get into the Drug Enforcement, the DEA, and they're doing well. But when we sit down with those individuals, what they want to talk about is what I'm doing in my business and the Honorable Minister, louis Farrakhan, that's the truth, because I give them the honor and most respect. Right, because I would have gone into that route of the federal and trying to stop drugs from coming in.

Speaker 2:

But by me turning that down too and then seeing where I am today, because being able to leave that job right as probation, not join the DEA, start my journey with Legal Shield and do other things and then meet my incredible wife See, that never would have happened if I would have took that other journey Right. And so I'm so thankful and I still believe like I'm just getting started, because I know we still have a lot of work. I still have a lot of growth, made a lot of mistakes, but the cool thing about life and if you're willing to take care of yourself while you're taking care of your mind and you know, connect with beautiful people that are in your life to help you grow there's nothing that you can't accomplish, and I believe that.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I totally agree with you so amazing, this is awesome guys, this is so good. And you actually segment into the topic I wanted to talk about, which is personal development mindset.

Speaker 2:

Sure.

Speaker 1:

Because you literally just mentioned that. So you know how do you stay motivated and resilient um in the face of challenges, and I know that, regardless of the career that we're in, there's always challenges. So how do you stay motivated?

Speaker 2:

of course, um faith I think part of it is your faith. So whether you and I know there are some individuals that you know really lean on their faith when it comes to religion. There are some that are not as religious, right, but they they just lean on the positivity of mindset and meditation and things of that nature. Because we've all gone through, I've gone through a tough, you know. I don't go into deep, my uh, because because I don't think it's just. You know, especially at this platform, there'll be another time for another movie or something, right, I went through a tough time with my first marriage and but that's in the past, right, it was devastating, whereby I could have really just did some things, not only to my not much to myself, but to others. When I was able to get through that, you know why? Because first of all my faith, but then I thought about others that would come behind me, you know, if I do something really silly and stupid, and what have you?

Speaker 1:

you know how is it going to impact? Even though it could be, it doesn't mean that it's right.

Speaker 2:

It's not no. And how is that going to impact me? How is it going to impact my family, my mom at the time before she passed, and I've always had respect and she has the oldest son, biological son, even though I had older brothers.

Speaker 2:

But I felt that there was a sense of you know as far as what I had to do, duty and responsibility just to my mom at the time. So I was like, no, you know, okay, trials happen to all of us. But I once was told that trials purify as well. So I was going through my purification period okay, good stuff.

Speaker 1:

So is there anyone like who or what has been the biggest influence on your personal journey?

Speaker 2:

It's so many I mean, but I guess the biggest would be, as far as my personal journey Right and growth. I have some incredible mentors Right, as I mentioned, as you know the Honorable Isaac Muhammad Minister, Louis Farrakhan, of course, as a growth. My dad, because, it's funny, if I were to write a book it would be my three fathers. So I had my biological father, Willie Slater. Everybody loved him, right, and you know he'd come from a background and he was bold about it. You know he liked to run and do gambling houses and things of that nature, but you know he was such a charismatic individual, he had a lot of grit and grind right, and that was Mr Willie Slater. But then my stepdad is Roosevelt Clark. I learned from his endurance and his resilience to get out and work, put together and bring a dual family. Even with all his mistakes, we never had lights cut off, we never went really without food back in Gary, Indiana, and I remember making a lot of money in legal shield when I was single before I met you right.

Speaker 2:

I had money in the bank under the mattress too. I got my lights cut off. I mean, that was just neglect on my part, but we never had to go through that. And so his work ethic. And I learned from all those individuals, right, and I continue to have mentors that are in my life and so, uh, but those, uh, I would say men. And then, of course, you know, uh, from you know, extraordinary black women that have been apart, from my grandmother to my mom, to Harriet Tubman on down and so many others. So I have, yeah, a plethora of people I can, I can go to when I'm going through. You know my downs. I think we all need to do that. You know your ups and downs and your struggles.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome. So good you got your lights cut off. Did you hear that, guys? That's funny Of course I did. He went from the projects to making. We didn't talk about this. You have earned over a million dollars in income in your company?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just in other things, but close to two now. Close in income in your company? Yeah, just in other things, but close to two now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right there, close to two. At what point was the light cut off when you were at the million?

Speaker 2:

When I was probably at 8,000, 9,000 a month.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, good stuff. So now let's segment into. You know social impact and you working with the inner city kids. I know that that's something that's dear to your heart. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, what made you get into it?

Speaker 2:

Like I said, I always had a passion I guess me growing up and seeing things and one of my best friends. This happened while being in Chicago. We played basketball together I'm talking about sixth and seventh grade right and I remember him I never forget his name was Michael. He got into, you know, a situation where you're in the projects, guns are available, and I remember him having it and, um, you know, three weeks later, after I was with him, like in a hallway right in Debron's home Debron Holmes a couple of weeks later, you know, he was found dead, right Shot, and because of that association and the games, of course, have been around a long time, whether it be, you know, thanks to the disciples, el Rookins, and even from the social elites back then, like the Black Panthers and they had, you know, great social causes, but they, you know, pretty much turned into you know something different. But he was aligned with that and found himself there and it was a big shock for me and so I continue to stay with sports.

Speaker 2:

When we moved from Chicago to Indiana, my thing was I always think about Mike and think about so many other youngsters that can be really inspired by that type of life or, you know, follow individuals that can really take you down a road that can lead you in prison or death. And he was no older than 14 years old, so, but I want to continue to work and, as I mentioned before, I'm probably going to do that until I can't, you know, breathe anymore. A way to mentor. I did it while we were in Florida, as you know that.

Speaker 2:

And to be honest with you, women, a lot of women right now, young women. Their need is more. I mean they're more. You'll be surprised. They're out there engaging in crazy stuff, and so we need mentors like yourself, other women, to work with these young women, and so we need mentors like yourself, other women to work with these young women. So not just the men, but also the women nowadays, because they can be just as tough and treacherous if I can just say that word than some of the young men.

Speaker 1:

So it's a need. Yes, yes, I agree, I agree and I applaud you for you know doing it. I know that we're in a new city getting ready to get back into that space. That was really good information, sir. So you know, what message do you want young people growing up in challenging environment to hear from you today?

Speaker 2:

My message would be to any individual right, Especially the youth that are out there never give up, no matter where you are and what situation that you're in, the environment that you're in now, because that's just temporary and knowing that you matter, knowing that people care for you, we care for you, and the struggle is real.

Speaker 2:

but guess what? If you're able to persevere, you can do amazing things. There's a story when I was a deputy chief PL, we would place kids as well. Part of my job title was to also help kids that are in an environment, maybe you know, to give them a second chance. We would put them in places, in organizations whereby they can, you know, flourish, right and. But there were so many places because our kids coming from that gang environment in Gary, it was tough and they couldn't handle the kids. So there was one kid that we were able to place in Arizona, and that was one of the reasons why I was able to move out there, because I was connecting with some of the programs that they had out there. They were able to take the kids, put them in sports program and educate them. And there was one kid where I was really, really inspired from California.

Speaker 2:

They had a video of this kid that went to their facility. He was on his way to prison. There was a judge, though, that had, you know, liked him and just felt that there was something more about him. Right, gave him a chance because he was, you know, heavily involved in the gangs and stabbing individuals and he was on his way. He said I'm going to give you this last chance. So he was able to go to this school, right, where he became very, very as far as one of the top intellectual students there. Right A's and B's, he played in two or three different sports, went to college. From this program, right ended up going to medical school, came back in his community right and became one of the most prominent doctors in LA. So in the film he says look, I went from stabbing people to now saving people you know with, you know those same, you know the same instrument, different purpose.

Speaker 2:

Different purpose, different lifestyle, and that just you know. That taught me. So I never forgot about that to see this young doctor doing the things that he was doing. And so, no matter where you are, don't give up. You know people care about you.

Speaker 1:

And that would be my message. That is so wonderful, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, you're quite welcome, all right.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, how can financial literacy and entrepreneurship empower underprivileged communities like us that are you know which? You pretty much said it already. But just to wrap this up, how can you know those people that are out there creating jobs you know they're making good money how can they turn around and give back? Yeah why should they?

Speaker 2:

I mean not only, it's so many different ways, whether it be tax purposes, right, learning that you can, you know, make your money, grow things of that nature, having good credit and I know you're great at that. I mean, you really are, and I know you've helped me out a lot, because Most people like myself that have made a lot of money I have a lot of my friends. We spend it and we've done that in the past. But you have to grow to understand that, yeah, money can make money as well, and also you know how you invest.

Speaker 2:

Uh is so important, so, so there are so many different ways that out there, even without other businesses that we have right now to be able to do rental cars and things of that nature. It's great when you can have it, but there are so many different ways that you can get that type of income, whether it be through also some of the other areas, right through social media and with TikTok right now and you see these guys, they're crushing it out there. But I would say, think outside of the box. Right, it's OK to have a job, but don't let that be your defining. You know one area where you seek to make income, because there's so many ways that you can make it in this day and time, and I'm so appreciative to be here.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, so I I only have two more questions for you. Okay, yes, go right ahead. One what principles guide your decision-making right now, in both life and business?

Speaker 2:

I guess my morals from what I've look, and I'm not perfect. We all, I'm telling you, man, we all make mistakes and do things, or what have you. But I think for me personally, when I get up, I want to say, you know, first of all, how would God look at me? And then how would my mom look at me if I were to go out and do something that's not ethical, right? So I think I try to get up and do things that's best, not only for me, but for my family, for you and for others, right? And so I always think about that, because character is so key, right?

Speaker 2:

Your reputation is also something that you know very, very important, and how would you be looked at? You know, as far as leaving a legacy, you can have a lot of money still being, but here, right, or still be somebody that, yeah. So I want to, and I think you can have it all. I think you can have good character or do things the right way and live a good life, right and and have that, that, that cash flow or what have you, if you're looking to seek that, or have nice places to stay right as far as homes, and have good friendships.

Speaker 1:

But every day I try to pray and meditate and you know, think about.

Speaker 2:

wow, you know, as they say that you know what would Jesus do, or what would Jesus think, or what would your mom think I think about you know what would Jesus do, or what would Jesus think, or what would your mom think I think about you know those that we admire and look up to. Right, yeah, before you do those things, man, you got to think about that. Sometimes, you know, they say think five times before you speak or make an action. So I think about that. I got to get better at that. So, but yes, that's what I work on, know continuously.

Speaker 1:

so and still working on it, awesome, awesome. So my final question is first of all, the name of this podcast is called Project Purpose Podcast. I like it and we want to ask you what's your favorite podcast?

Speaker 2:

this one. No, I'll tell you my favorite favorite podcaster. My name is Sherelle Mohammed Buy. None, I mean number one, you know you got to, and not only that, your other YouTube channels and everything. No, you are, you know I can. Hey, I can brag. So what you better, believe it. I may be a little biased, but this is wonderful. I appreciate the time you're putting in. I see what you do. Others don't Just like others don't see the things that we do when we're pursuing other ventures or what have you. It's a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of dedication and I appreciate you doing that. Yes, I know.

Speaker 1:

I got you All right, so that was amazing. I get a chance to know about you a little bit more. Yes, that whole taking the grocery all the way up to the sixth floor stairs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, what's so funny is when we do travel one of our exercise excursion, if you want to call it, as opposed to just like hitting the gym. We usually do like to take the stairs, but that's for fun, not necessity. You're doing it out of necessity. You guys need to eat. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's why I'm so yeah, I'm used to it, so I can take the stairs, man, because we yeah, we've done it. So many other interesting stories, you know, like I said, but that's a, that's a whole, another level of conversation, and but I appreciate those times because I learned a lot. You.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. We talked about your background and your personal journey. We also talked about how you transitioned from your work, a traditional 9-to-5, into entrepreneurship. Of course, we shared on here your story which, again, I did not know about the young man that you know, that you grew up with, but just to see him being killed, or to hear of him being killed someone that you play with, yeah, you know yeah, we played on the same basketball team, all of that, yeah, we were friends.

Speaker 1:

You know we were friends yeah, but you know, now to transitioning into, you know, definitely out of that day-to-day grind, so to speak, but still being able to go and give back is just such an inspiring story. So we thank you for being here with us today on the podcast. We love having you and we hope that this will not be the last.

Speaker 2:

I hope so. I hope you invite me back.

Speaker 1:

That we'll actually see you. So that's the information that we have to share with you today, guys, you can find Willie Muhammad on Instagram at Willie Darnell Muhammad. That's his Instagram handle. Yeah, sure is, and, of course, Instagram handle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah sure is and, of course, we'll be available in the near future to talk, to dive deeper into, you know, the day-to-day handling of his businesses and so on and so forth. But for now, don't forget to subscribe to the channel so that you will continue to be inspired by amazing stories like this. And yeah, until then, we'll catch you in the next video. Bye for now, all right, bye. So here are five key takeaways to highlight.

Speaker 1:

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